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« on: July 30, 2009, 04:16:56 PM »

Is this feasible.  I can't seem to find any info. on it online.  I'm not familiar with this section of the Pinhoti Trail either. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 05:44:18 PM »

It's probably not feasible, in that the water is usually too low and there isn't a good put in when the water is high.  Hillabee starts in the valley between the Cheaha Scenic Byway and the Cheaha State Park Ridge and runs towards Cleburne County road 24.  The only crossing that I know of with any size water would be at the CCC bridge, which would require a 1 mile walk-in from the Byway.  The Pinhoti does cross Hillabee in Section 7, and when the water is up -- this can be an impossible crossing.  I can imagine that there are the usual snags and obstacles along the creek's entire path.

As far as Morgan Lake, the trail goes close.  There is even a reported side-trail as well.  The Pinhoti Trail Alliance site recommends walking up CR 24 0.1 miles past the Pinhoti junction, then turning on the first dirt road to the left and going another 0.1 miles to the lake.  At one time, this road was gated to prevent illegal dumping.  I'm not sure about now.  The upper end of the lake that can be seen from the Pinhoti is heavily filled in with silt, so I'm not sure how much canoeing might be done in the other parts.  I believe it was one of the flood control lakes put in by the FS.  It drains into the larger lakes below along CR 24 and serves as the water supply for the city of Oxford, AL.

The FS is reportedly considering removing some of these smaller lakes.  I talked at length to a FS Ranger recently who told me that the Highrock Lake dam (near the Pine Glen campground) was being heavily considered for removal due to sedimentation.  When built, Highrock was a 29 acre lake -- but is now less than half that due to silt.  Most likely from logging practices.  From the trail, you can clearly see that Highrock Lake is just a big swamp now.  I always thought the maps were crazy for calling it a "lake."

You can read more on the details of section 7 on the PTA site below:
http://pinhotitrailalliance.org/007-tg.html
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 06:31:09 PM »

The only creeks I know or that cross the Pinhoti and could be floated are Talladega and Terripin.  The two watershed lakes on the northern half would be good, but small, lakes to float.  I see fishermen on them sometimes.  The camping at Chandler Springs is limited except where a man is trying to establish a campground right at the Talladega Creek/Pinhoti crossing.  The Talladega Creek looks clear and good.  I would not use Teripin.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 08:38:15 PM »

Thanks for the info!  What about Coleman lake? 
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 11:24:20 PM »

Hey Sam, I'm very familiar with this area.  First, do you want to paddle moving water or flat water? If you want to try to paddle hillabee creek you have to do as Jaybird said. You have to hike in from the scenic drive (hwy 281) down to the creek and you can paddle to the lake. (after a good rain) I will add a link with a good description of the trip. The lake is deep and clean. As jay said the city uses the water. If you want to paddle the lake and camp you would enjoy exploring the lakes shoreline, fishing or just looking around. It is large enough to do that. there is a dirt boat launch about 2/3 up the lake on the south side of co rd 24. If you look across the lake at that point you can see a small sand bar at the confluence of Hillabee creek. Go up the creek just a little way as far as you can paddle and there is a nice camping spot there. There is lots of birds and critters around so be aware. Some you might not like their company. Old no shoulders makes frequent appearances.  I think you would enjoy the scenery. You need to check with the Anniston Water  Dept. to see if you need a permit. I know you need one if your going to fish. You need to get a fishing permit. As for Morgan Lake, It is very small and not much to see except for people stopping by to toss beer cans out. It is a pretty lake and clean & clear but you can see it all in few minutes.
Check put the Link below:

http://www.alabamawhitewater.com/

Trip report; Upper Hillabee is one of those runs that I've done once, enjoyed in its own way, but will probably never do again. It is very scenic in a back woods, Smokies kind of way. Water quality is excellent (for Alabama especially). Access and trees prevent this from being a must-do II-III 'wilderness' run. Brian McAnally had been checking this one out for a while, and Chris Sherrod and I took him up on it in early spring 2005. It requires a strong, recent rain for a good level.

Usually I describe the run before the access but in this case the situation is reversed. There is no practical way to judge the level before committing to the run. This is because the take-out is across a lake and the put-in is 45 minutes, or slightly less, down a trail. The trail the old Oxford/Cheaha road that is on the topo maps. Park the take-out vehicle somewhere along Lake Hillabee on CR24. Access to this lake may be by permit only, I'm not sure. To find the put-in, go back up CR24, turn south on Rt 281. After you pass under the power lines, then an overlook, watch for a gravel pull off on the right side. This is the start of the trail, which heads down to the creek. It is in excellent shape. It is an old CCC road project from the depression, complete with fine stonework supporting the road and a good stone bridge at the creek. Towards the end of the trail, you will see an obvious Y in the trail. Either one will work, though we went right to the lower access to maximize water.

The creek itself has almost constant class II+ rapids for a long time. Here and there a couple rapids are in the easy III category. As of early 2005, you will encounter many logs. We had to walk about a half dozen and squeeze over, under, and through many more. Once you get down to the power lines, the gradient slowly leaves the scene and you are left with moving flatwater. The water does move at a decent level. All in all a nice scenic trip that is not worth the effort. That would change if someone decided to walk down the creek and cut out the logs. If that was done, the intrepid in-shape class III boater might want to make this a fitness test or nice overnighter

Carl W.


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