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« on: November 02, 2009, 06:01:03 PM »

I'm planning on hiking this loop tomorrow. I've just roughly plotted out 203 & 207. Does anyone know of any POIs in this loop area? I've read mention of a Flanigan Creek Cave & "Snake Trees". Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 01:47:01 AM »

Does anyone know of any POIs in this loop area?


Several arborgylphs along this route.  Look at the beech trees right on the trail near #4 especially.  All the caves are off limits.  In years gone by, the Hagood creek drainage was bear country. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 08:28:29 AM »

Several arborgylphs along this route.  Look at the beech trees right on the trail near #4 especially.  All the caves are off limits.  In years gone by, the Hagood creek drainage was bear country. 

Uncle Wayne, that is a really nice arborglyph. I made a special trip just to see it. Not knowing it was actually along the trail I ventured off trail and found another one near it. It feels like bear country in that area.

I'm a bit late but, you also should see Braziel Creek Cave at the junction of Hagood and Braziel. It's where Braziel comes out from underground. There is a nice waterfall near #2. Not sure what the snake trees are. I've seen pictures of other snake trees and the limbs look like snakes.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 01:43:21 PM »

Several arborgylphs along this route.  Look at the beech trees right on the trail near #4 especially.  All the caves are off limits.  In years gone by, the Hagood creek drainage was bear country. 

So Uncle Wayne, what do you think the chances are that bears still live there?
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 07:39:16 PM »

If they can live in Athens.........
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 08:17:14 PM »

I got off to a late start this morning. I’ve forgotten about this time change and its effect on sunrise & set twice now! I was in the woods by 7AM, but I could have been there by 6. My car was the only one at Flannagin trailhead as I began hiking this morning. It was pretty cold for once. If I can see my breath I’m a happy hiker!

Trail 203 started off great. The trail was very easy to follow and well worn down to the stream that runs into Borden Creek. Once you get to the stream it’s a different story though. I totally lost the trail at that point. I had seen a trail shooting off to the West along Borden a little bit before the lower stream. That might be a trail of interest for another day.

My GPS was saying that T203 ran somewhere a bit farther South of Borden, but I just didn’t see it. I even pulled out my compass to double-check, it indicated the same direction. Second guessing both staples of navigation, I decided to follow Borden itself. I’m glad I did as it wasn’t long before I located a low ceiling cave. No, I didn’t investigate much. The caves are still closed to protect the bats. I could see some graffiti in the mouth of the cave though. I can’t understand why people think to deface such unique and natural things?

I’ve been hiking smaller creeks lately in Sipsey, so seeing the amazing colors of Borden was refreshing; especially in the morning when the light whiffs of steam are rising off the emerald water. I found what may be a belly crawler cave in the bend of Borden. I only noticed it because of the red arrow with the word “CAVE” spray painted above it. I couldn’t tell if it was a cave or not. If it is, it only has a clearance of about 12” or so.

The area I was hiking gradually became steeper and more tangled so I went higher on the hillside. I came across somewhat of a hazard, but an interest just the same. There is a small section of barb wire ran for about 10’. I guess there was once a fence here. Any time I find remnants of the past I begin imagining what might have taken place there. Any ideas on this?

I knew that I would have to cross Borden on my way back so I kept an eye out for a low area. I found one close to where my GPS showed a trail that led to the Narrows Ridge area. That’s the thing about GPS, there may have been a trail there in the past, but it’s not there now as far as I could tell.

I continued on towards the Borden Trailhead weaving on and off old logging roads, following game trails, and just plain bushwacking. I found some old fire rings along the way as well as many new ones as I got closer to Borden. That seems to be a popular place judging by all the monuments, fire rings, and obvious activity around the trailhead.

Not wanting to get wet, I crossed the river via the bridge and went North. There are some really nice camp sites right here with a great view of the river. The trail was great on the West & South side of Braziel Creek, but (I may be wrong) the Cart O Craft Map shows trail 207 on the East side of the creek. I decided to leave this wonderful, unobstructed trail and cross Braziel by a huge fallen tree I found. I felt like an acrobat balancing across a 20’ beam. After that it was all bushwacking! No trail in site except the one I had left.

By now I had spent way more time than I had estimated. I had a meeting scheduled in Cullman at 2PM and it was already almost 11AM. I’m going to have to start estimating 1.25hr/mile on unknown areas! To save time and keep it interesting I decided to bushwack all the way to Narrows Ridge and follow it back to the ford I had noted earlier. What a task! The thickets were very difficult the way I went at it.

Once I made it to the road it was not very impressive. The terrain has a gradual declining gradient that doesn’t ever give you the view that you might anticipate from an area called the, “Lookout Trail.” All I could see was lots of deciduous woodland. I did run across some old Sprite cans. They had a teardrop hole like the V8s that you peel the aluminum flap off of to drink. Nothing like nostalgic trash…lol.

A good ways up Narrows Ridge my GPS showed yet another side trail headed back towards my ford. Taking it I followed a very small stream. It was pretty cool because I found two old fire rings. Pretty big ones. It made me wonder why people used to hike out to this area. Maybe when Co Rd 8 was a road it was convenient? Shortly after the last fire pit I began to notice Beech trees with the letter “H” carved in them. I remembered having seen them earlier in the trail and thought they may have an interesting significance. I marked 6 more on my way back. They seem to mark the logging road, but H7 is nowhere around a road. Maybe old trail markers?

As I made my loop back I decided to go to a higher elevation than I took on my way in. Just as fate would have it, I found trail 203 to follow for about the last mile out. It was a pretty clear path and flagged frequently. I had not went far enough South when I came in at the stream! That is a fact of the forest. You can be bushwacking your heart out 10’ from a perfect trail and never know it’s there. Other than a red arrow in a tree by the entry stream, I still didn’t see where the beginning of 203 was after the stream. By the way, what’s an arborglyph?

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 08:30:23 PM »

Great report and pictures. I'm thinking the small cave you found is another entrance to the first cave you found, Borden Creek Cave. The "H"s are all over Bankhead. I've always wondered who carved them and why. This is an arborglyph: Arborglyph
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 08:34:52 PM »

Wow! That is awesome! So they're on the trees. I never find native stuff like that. I don't think I ever made it far enough in the West direction to see the fall you had mentioned.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 08:57:20 PM »

Great report David, your making me jealous.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 09:15:59 PM »

Haha. Thanks bro. I'm dying to camp though. These day hikes are awesome, but to get some real distance and take my time I need a few days.

Does anyone have good tracks for T207 & T210  they could save as GPX and email me? I'm thinking of going back soon and hiking South from the Braziel trailhead to Borden trailhead. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 09:28:15 PM »

It looks like you crossed Braziel just before the creek with the waterfall. It is about 60-70' tall. Co Rd 8 has some POI. There is a pond along the trail but you'll miss it if you're not looking. There's also an Indian Marker tree off the trail about 200 feet and some bluffs if you follow the drainages southeast heading toward Flannagin Creek that I haven't explored yet. I'd like to join you on one of your day hikes or camp hikes sometime if you go on a weekend.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2009, 09:40:15 PM »

Sure. It sounds like you know where some cool things are. I'm planning my next hike now. It'll be a full weekend.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 01:22:40 AM »

So Uncle Wayne, what do you think the chances are that bears still live there?

The last fresh sign I saw was about 6 years ago but I only visit that area 3 or 4 times a year.  If there are bears in the Bankhead now I believe they'll be on the east side of HWY 33. That's the last place any one reported seeing a bear and the guy who reported it was on one of the horse trails. I don't think there are any living there but some wander through from time to time.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 01:41:11 AM »

The "H"s are all over Bankhead. I've always wondered who carved them and why. This is an arborglyph: Arborglyph


The late Mr. Rayford Hyatt, a life long resident of Bankhead and long time FS employee (may have been a  game warden, I'm not for sure now), is responsible for the "H" you see carved everywhere. His wife told me where to find the first one he carved,  north of the Braziel & Borden intersection I believe.  He is the one who marked all of the primitive cemeterys in the Bankhead with the PVC pipe in the shape of a cross.  He is buried in the Wolfpen cemetery just off the Cranal road.

Good photo of the sunburst Pully.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 07:23:19 AM »

Awesome. I really enjoy learning the history behind things. Thanks Uncle Wayne.
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