12/19 Hubbard Creek Hike

[dayhiker]

I don't know how I missed this thread.  weathermansam, you gave an excellent trip report.  My wife and I done this hike but it's been 12 years ago, before all the ice and hurricane damage and it was tough then. I can't be for sure exactly where by your notes but we found a way down into the canyon.

We parked at the small parking area that many use to go to Parker Falls.  Just before the pavement ends maybe a 1/4 mile or so on the Kinlock road.  We dropped into the drainage immediately at the parking area and worked our way down to the creek although it wasn't easy, it wasn't a dangerous route either.  As I remember, there was a waterfall there also.  We stayed on the south side of the creek from there all the way to where Parker runs into Hubbard  and hiked up Parker and back to our car on that shortcut to Parker falls from the Kinlock road.

Between the creek and the bluff line on the south side there are several ancient arborgylphs and an old still or two.  I'm sorry I can't be more specific due to poor memory but the south side abounds with interesting things to see and photgraph.

I have several photos on my webshots site in the Hubbard Creek folder of that hike.

I have never seen the falls in the boxed canyon you mentioned.  Now I've got to go back!

I've talked with Jeff about this area a time or two and it's been on my list for a while.

On the Parker end, I took a group from my SS class in the fall.  I totally lost the trail to Parker.  I bushwacked ahead of the group and finally gave up and came back.  We had 4 small kids with us and it just wasn't going to be worth it.  Turkey Foot was plan B and worked just fine for the kiddos.

This TR has me wanting another trip.

[weathermansam]

I don't know how I missed this thread.  weathermansam, you gave an excellent trip report.  My wife and I done this hike but it's been 12 years ago, before all the ice and hurricane damage and it was tough then. I can't be for sure exactly where by your notes but we found a way down into the canyon.

We parked at the small parking area that many use to go to Parker Falls.  Just before the pavement ends maybe a 1/4 mile or so on the Kinlock road.  We dropped into the drainage immediately at the parking area and worked our way down to the creek although it wasn't easy, it wasn't a dangerous route either.  As I remember, there was a waterfall there also.  We stayed on the south side of the creek from there all the way to where Parker runs into Hubbard  and hiked up Parker and back to our car on that shortcut to Parker falls from the Kinlock road.

Between the creek and the bluff line on the south side there are several ancient arborgylphs and an old still or two.  I'm sorry I can't be more specific due to poor memory but the south side abounds with interesting things to see and photgraph.

I have several photos on my webshots site in the Hubbard Creek folder of that hike.

I have never seen the falls in the boxed canyon you mentioned.  Now I've got to go back!

I skimped on info on the latter part of the hike, but the terrain remained pretty much the same through that section so I'm not sure what good it would do.  I do think I know generally where you came in, though.  There were three waterfalls, I think I labeled them 11, 12 and 13 where the grade was easy enough to come down them.  

I searched like a madman for that one still you made mention of and every beech tree I could fine.  It's likely I stayed too close to the creek and missed the still you have photos of;  that rock face/area didn't ring a bell with at all when I looked at the photos.   There were quite a few large fallen beech trees on this hike, including one I crossed the creek on.  The soil there was really soft and there was a lot of evidence of recent slides.  What beech trees remained were either covered in moss, had hunks of bark missing from rot or were too young.  I'd like to make a second trip out to Hubbard just for those arborglyphs, they fascinate me.  Your route sounds good, I've no idea where that pull off for Parker is, but if Jay still wants to hike in January maybe we should utilize it.  

Or..... down the Arnold Motorway, downstream to the Quillan Cascades (approx), then over the ridge to the side creek.  Looks like you could get down into the box canyon from the north.

Edit @ 10:00 AM: In reviewing my map, it appears that you could get down to Hubbard about 1/4 mile downstream from the side creek.  But yeah..... climbing directly down into that box canyon may be a no-go.

Also: I remembered that I also tried to reach that side creek years ago by going up Hubbard from its confluence with Quillan, but was stopped by bluffs.

On the Quillan Creek hike, Jay discussed possibly shortcutting over ridge to reach Hubbard....I'm glad we didn't try to finish out at Hubbard that day.  It really would have been good and dark by the time we finished.

It is threads like this that make AlaTrails a unique and very useful tool for those who love the outdoors. This research and information is beyond helpful when planning a trip. I'll be sure to reference this thread when I get around to Hubbard. Great contribution!

This website is a BIG source of info when I've done some of the bushwhacks solo this year.  I'm happy to shed some more light on the Hubbard area!

This TR has me wanting another trip.

I know Jay was itching to see this area and it seems like Josh was interested as well.  I'm ready for round 2!

[JC785]

Depending on the date I might tag along if y'all don't mind.

[Pully]

Awesome report, Sam. You definitely increased my interest of this area even more.

[Pathfinder]

Fantastic report!  I wish I was on this hike myself.

[Joshua Szulecki]

AWESOME! Thanks for sharing, I'm really excited about the prospects of waterfalls in that area.

I'll be itching to hit this area in a month or two. Unfortunately, I'll probably be out of the hiking business for a few weeks, maybe a month. I was in a relatively low-speed accident on I-80 on Saturday, but I'll be in a rental for a little while, as my car did not fare particularly well. We're fine, but it was an experience... Just glad I didn't take I-81.

 

[dayhiker]

Is the spooky little hut still there just upstream from the intersection with Quillen?  This was spring 07

[weathermansam]

Didn't make it that far, I still had a long way to go before the parker creek intersection, even.  I'm thinking next month I'll venture back and see if I can't find the stills and arborglyphs I missed.  I'll probably attack it from the south this time, too. 

[Uncle Wayne]

Is the spooky little hut still there just upstream from the intersection with Quillen?  This was spring 07

It's gone now or was last March.

[Pathfinder]

My Carto-Craft map shows a drainage with headwaters just east of Kinlock Rd which flows towards the southeast eventually emptying into Hubbard.  I assume this is the drainage where Weathermansam saw the triple waterfalls. I'm not talking about the little creek that Flows southward running parallel to Kinlock Rd and empties into Hubbard right near Kinlock Falls.  So far I haven't found any map with the name of this drainage.  Does anyone know its name?  Just curious... Besides, it is much easier to refer to something simply by its name than to try to describe what you are talking about.  

I assume the Forest Service has maps with much more detail listing names of just about everything.  Do you think my assumption is correct?  Inquiring minds want to know.

[Joshua Szulecki]

My Carto-Craft map shows a drainage with headwaters just east of Kinlock Rd which flows towards the southeast eventually emptying into Hubbard.  I assume this is the drainage where Weathermansam saw the triple waterfalls. I'm not talking about the little creek that Flows southward running parallel to Kinlock Rd and empties into Hubbard right near Kinlock Falls.  So far I haven't found any map with the name of this drainage.  Does anyone know its name?  Just curious... Besides, it is much easier to refer to something simply by its name than to try to describe what you are talking about.  

I assume the Forest Service has maps with much more detail listing names of just about everything.  Do you think my assumption is correct?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Names? Probably not. I think they follow USGS fairly closely, and USGS names only a small portion of the features in most locations. More detailed maps? Probably. They should have all sorts of surveys for logging and things.

[montysano]

My Carto-Craft map shows a drainage with headwaters just east of Kinlock Rd which flows towards the southeast eventually emptying into Hubbard.  I assume this is the drainage where Weathermansam saw the triple waterfalls. I'm not talking about the little creek that Flows southward running parallel to Kinlock Rd and empties into Hubbard right near Kinlock Falls.  So far I haven't found any map with the name of this drainage.  Does anyone know its name?  Just curious... Besides, it is much easier to refer to something simply by its name than to try to describe what you are talking about.  

I assume the Forest Service has maps with much more detail listing names of just about everything.  Do you think my assumption is correct?  Inquiring minds want to know.

I could be wrong, but I think that's the one he refers to as Kinlock Chute Falls.  I walked that creek last winter.  From above, there's a real pretty chute where it empties into Hubbard.  And no easy way down past the chute.

The triple waterfall canyon, I think, is further downstream and around the bend, coming in from the west-ish.

[dayhiker]

There is another triple on West Bee.  It's the first creek upstream from the intersection with East Bee.  The first creek is the triple, the second is the route to WOH.

[Joshua Szulecki]

I could be wrong, but I think that's the one he refers to as Kinlock Chute Falls.  I walked that creek last winter.  From above, there's a real pretty chute where it empties into Hubbard.  And no easy way down past the chute.

The triple waterfall canyon, I think, is further downstream and around the bend, coming in from the west-ish.

The Kinlock Chute is within sight of Kinlock Falls at the first bend in Hubbard. It empties almost directly into Hubbard, and there really isn't a canyon there. The side-canyon everybody has been itching to get at is further downstream. Both are on the left side of the creek heading downstream.

[Pathfinder]

The Kinlock Chute is within sight of Kinlock Falls at the first bend in Hubbard. It empties almost directly into Hubbard, and there really isn't a canyon there. The side-canyon everybody has been itching to get at is further downstream. Both are on the left side of the creek heading downstream.

You are correct, Josh.  By the way, have a very merry Christmas!!!!

[Jdevil]

This entire thread was an excellent and helpful read, really appreciate all the info I found here! Thanks for turning me on to it weathermansam, I am definitely going to give this several days next fall or winter and I'm sure this info will be priceless! Exactly what I was looking for, very much appreciated and nice to "meet" you!

[Pathfinder]

This entire thread was an excellent and helpful read, really appreciate all the info I found here! Thanks for turning me on to it weathermansam, I am definitely going to give this several days next fall or winter and I'm sure this info will be priceless! Exactly what I was looking for, very much appreciated and nice to "meet" you!

Welcome to the forum.  I'm glad you jumped right in and are getting your feet wet.  I suspect there are plenty of neat places close to Oden Ridge for hiking and exploring. 

[Jdevil]

Hello Pathfinder, thanks for the warm welcome and yes, there are indeed many great places to hike around here.  A lot of private property, but most people around here will let you go where you want if you just ask and respect their land!  I'll post some pictures from around here when I get the chance! Once again, nice to "meet" the lot of ya and maybe I'll see you all on the trail!   

[weathermansam]

This entire thread was an excellent and helpful read, really appreciate all the info I found here! Thanks for turning me on to it weathermansam, I am definitely going to give this several days next fall or winter and I'm sure this info will be priceless! Exactly what I was looking for, very much appreciated and nice to "meet" you!

You're welcome, and welcome to the boards!  We'll have to get together sometime for a hike. 

[Jdevil]

Thanks again and for sure!