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« on: October 24, 2011, 02:22:03 PM »

There's a small dotted line on my carto craft that starts at the 206 trailhead and follows it until the hubbard sipsey fork where it crosses over then goes up the ridge between west bee and white oak hollow until it runs into 224. Is this a usable trail? If so, what's it called?
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 03:36:30 PM »

There's a small dotted line on my carto craft that starts at the 206 trailhead and follows it until the hubbard sipsey fork where it crosses over then goes up the ridge between west bee and white oak hollow until it runs into 224. Is this a usable trail? If so, what's it called?

I am looking at the Forest Service Maps that I ordered (there are 5 in all).  Where are you guys coming up with these numbers?  What and where, is the 206 trail head.  I cant find any such information on these maps.  This has me concerned, especially when people start talking about sections that are closed.  I see no such number or information on these maps.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 05:10:56 PM »

Jbass, it is probably one of the old jeep trails/logging rosds that crisscross the area. I seem to recall there being one there. I seen to recall crossing one in that area.

Funguy, you need the Cart-o-craft map. I can't stand those NFS maps.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 06:24:09 PM »

I may be wrong but I think what you are referring to is the old 205 trail, no longer listed by the FS. It is an old roadbed and years ago was one of the better roads in the wilderness. It was dropped as a FS maintained trail about 15 years ago.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 07:28:00 PM »

I may be wrong but I think what you are referring to is the old 205 trail, no longer listed by the FS. It is an old roadbed and years ago was one of the better roads in the wilderness. It was dropped as a FS maintained trail about 15 years ago.

You're correct, it is the old 205.  I've made a loop before from eye of the needle and then out white oak hollow. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 07:37:42 PM »

You're correct, it is the old 205.  I've made a loop before from eye of the needle and then out white oak hollow. 

Thanks ya'll. Does anyone know if it's still usable?
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 08:15:54 PM »

I am looking at the Forest Service Maps that I ordered (there are 5 in all).  Where are you guys coming up with these numbers?  What and where, is the 206 trail head.  I cant find any such information on these maps.  This has me concerned, especially when people start talking about sections that are closed.  I see no such number or information on these maps.

The FS topo maps do not have the trails listed.  I'd suggest the cart o craft maps as well, and if you want something digital, go to briartech.com. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 08:55:23 PM »

That is an old trail/jeep road.  It is hard to find from the Sipsey end.  It is the road/trail you cross when using White Oak to get to West Bee.  When you leave the White Oak water shed you cross the road/trail, go left on the road about 50 feet, and then start down towards West Bee.  That was an enjoyable alternate route between 224 and 209 a couple of years ago.  It did not have a really good hiking trail foot base but it was still easily walked.  People used it but but not anywhere like the other trails.  I doubt you can use it now.  It is a ridge trail and if the lower trails were damaged by the tornadoes then the ridge trail must have been completely demolished.  Take the route from White Oak towards West Bee and you can ascertain the possibility of hiking the "unknown" trail when you cross it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 09:33:09 PM »

Correct! It took damge back in 02 or 03 - very dificult as trail not cleared for many 12 + years - from the river side you will not find it unless you have been down it a few times - when the road ( 224 )  was open to the Top of the big tree - this was a main route to the River that was overused in the 70's and 80's .

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